1. karnythia:

    Esoterica: Query, how often do we see WOC positioned as valuable in the media?…

    numol:

    witchsistah:

    karnythia:

    Query, how often do we see WOC positioned as valuable in the media? Especially in Western media? Not as commodities, but as people to be cherished? I know there’s a lot of rhetoric about to come my way about equality & feminism, but this really isn’t about the needs of white middle class women to…

    Girl, I’ve BEEN thinking this!  This is why the White feminist movement cannot be our movement, well, one of many reasons why.  

    It’s like when in the second wave, White feminists often claimed they envied Black women for our “independence” because so many of us worked outside the home.  They did zero unpacking and critique of that view.  They didn’t look at the circumstances BW were working under, which was odd because oftentimes it was in their own homes (that’s why my butt itches whenever I hear of some rich, privileged, WW working the “can have it all” and “How does she do it all?” angles when we all know she can only have cake and eat it too because she’s paying WoC a pittance to keep baking for her).  Work was hardly seen as liberating for Black women then and not for many now.  It’s not very liberating when you have little to no choice.

    But how much of White feminist prating against being treated as damsels about the privilege of knowing that will never go away.  That they can call upon that White Knighting when they need it?  Like how it’s fun for rich kids to play poor, live in sketchy neighborhoods, work marginal jobs, but know they got a fat trust fund or that Mommy and Daddy’s money will bail them out.  It’s fun to go out into the world and act all adventurous when you know you got a better chance of being rescued if your adventure goes sour.

    reblogging for the conversation, if that’s ok.  if it’s not ok, i’ll delete this reblog.

    Oh it’s totally fine by me. I really do want this discussion to be visible, I just don’t want it derailed into fifty-eleven arguments about how WOC are doing feminism wrong because they have different priorities.

    Um lemme just say the bolded parts are mine. And I would also like to start talking about the internalized non cherishment of WOC that often feels quick to dismiss that desire in CERTAIN women.

    As well as the recent but horrifyingly disturbing recent occurences of white women playing willy nilly with WOC safety and trust while exploring their ” WILD/SEXY/BRAVE” sides

     
  2. I saw white people saying, “Don’t play the race card!” when talking about Troy Davis. Really? With the next gay bashing, will we say, “Don’t play the Queer card!!!”?

    MLK’s quote about the white moderate being a bigger obstruction to justice than the plain haters is still true. I think in these cases, we’ve got justice tourists- people who are happy to march so they can say they marched and feel good about themselves and it’s really just too bad that people died/injustice happened anyway. It lets them enjoy their hate on for “the man” as a fun crusade, and not as something that deals with their community’s survival or their own.

    All the white savior narratives have them being worshipped for helping the POC and taking down the 1 or 2 white people running the hate operation, none of those stories show them having to sacrifice everything because white culture doesn’t change easily, or without showing the worst of it’s evil to those dismantling it.

     
  3. leonineantiheroine:

    ANTI-BLACK RACISM IN THE UK. Using anti-black racist language to have a go at white, working class people! Black cultureS are always under attack!

    “The historian and broadcaster David Starkey has provoked a storm of criticism after claiming during a televised discussion about the riots that “the problem is that the whites have become black”.

    In an appearance on BBC2’s Newsnight, Starkey spoke of “a profound cultural change” and said he had been re-reading Enoch Powell’s rivers of blood speech.

    “His prophesy was absolutely right in one sense. The Tiber did not foam with blood but flames lambent, they wrapped around Tottenham and wrapped around Clapham,” he said.

    “But it wasn’t inter-community violence. This is where he was absolutely wrong.” Gesturing towards one of the other guests, Owen Jones, who wrote Chavs: the Demonisation of the Working Classes, Starkey said: “What has happened is that a substantial section of the chavs that you wrote about have become black.”

    On the programme, Starkey said: “The whites have become black. A particular sort of violent destructive, nihilistic gangster culture has become the fashion and black and white boys and girls operate in this language together.

    “This language which is wholly false, which is this Jamaican patois that has been intruded in England and that is why so many of us have this sense of literally of a foreign country.”

    The historian and broadcaster, whose historical documentaries on Channel 4 about the Tudors established him as a household name, went on to name-check Tottenham’s Labour MP: “Listen to David Lammy, an archetypal successful black man. If you turn the screen off so that you are listening to him on radio you would think he was white.”